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Sansei
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 Posted - 01/27/2007 : 7:44:57 PM
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 hi this is sansei and for the fan's of Komyo Ga tsuji,it'll be this sunday and i believe it will air at it's Original Time which is the Final episode so I Thought to share this with everyone who's a Fan of this show.
Well thank's for your Time
jay yagami
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REG
Junior Member
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 Posted - 01/28/2007 : 10:06:25 PM
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Are you sure? TV Guide Online TV listing and Zap2It.com Listing still show Komyo Ga Tsuji on the Tuesday January 30 8pm timeslot.
Anyhoo, just some random thoughts... |
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Kayoko
Average Member
USA
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Posted - 01/29/2007 : 01:41:38 AM
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Well, there are 49 episodes and "Sekigahara" episode was #44, so we should still have 5 more episodes to watch.
However, to defend Sansei...
For some unknown reason, KIKU is airing the "Final episode commercial" for 1 week now saying "Don't miss the final episode Sunday..."
I don't know why KIKU is airing that commercial though. |
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Shizuka
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Posted - 01/30/2007 : 07:13:19 AM
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| if you listen real close, they're saying "final episodeS." So I think KIKU is just trying to cut some advertising costs by using the same commercial for the next few weeks. |
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Kayoko
Average Member
USA
250 Posts |
Posted - 01/30/2007 : 4:23:00 PM
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Originally posted by Shizuka
if you listen real close, they're saying "final episodeS." So I think KIKU is just trying to cut some advertising costs by using the same commercial for the next few weeks.
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Yes I noticed that, but the original commercial they ran said "Final Episode Sunday"...and now this week, I noticed S was added to make it Final Episodes and it no longer states Sunday. |
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REG
Junior Member
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Posted - 01/30/2007 : 7:44:05 PM
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Originally posted by Kayoko
Well, there are 49 episodes and "Sekigahara" episode was #44, so we should still have 5 more episodes to watch.
However, to defend Sansei...
For some unknown reason, KIKU is airing the "Final episode commercial" for 1 week now saying "Don't miss the final episode Sunday..."
I don't know why KIKU is airing that commercial though.
Yeah, I saw the commercial/trailer. Didn't believed it though.
BTW, they need to update their weekly programming schedule webpage. They don't have the week of 01/29-02/02 posted.
Hehehe. So, the reason why it reads "Final Episode" and not "Final Episodes" is because they're cutting advertising cost. Gee, the letter "s" must be pretty expensive. 
Anyhoo, just some random thoughts... |
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Reiko
Senior Member
USA
536 Posts |
Posted - 02/06/2007 : 11:56:14 AM
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Hmm, it seems that the topic I created for this series has gone missing. Did someone simply delete it for no apparent reason?
I'm too lazy/busy to create a new topic on it, so I'm just going to post the summary to episode 46 here.
Episode 46: "The 200,000-Koku Tosa Domain"
(Originally Broadcasted on November 19, 2006)
[rating 19.1%]
++STAFF++
Original Work: Shiba Ryoutaro's 'Komyo ga Tsuji'
Screenplay Writer: Ooishi Shizuka
Music: Koroku Reijiro
Theme Music Performed by: NHK Symphony Orchestra
Theme Music Conducter: Vladimir Ashkenazy
Music Performer: FAIR WIND music
Subtitler (Japanese): Dan Kyoko
Narrator: Miyake Tamio
Background Researcher: Owada Tetsuo
Manners Researcher: Futaki Ken'ichi
Architecture Researcher: Hirai Kiyoshi
Costume Researcher: Koizumi Kiyoko
Conduct Coach: Tachibana Yoshie
Calligraphy Coach: Mochizuki Gyoun
Tosa Speech Coach: Okamoto Keiko
Shooting Cooperation: Kochi City in Kochi Prefecture, Kochi Film Commission
Work Unifier: Ooka Akimasa
Art: Kishi Toshimitsu
Technology: Miyaji Nobuhiro
Sound Effects: Senbongi Masazumi
Recording: Noda Shigeko
Editing: Mizushima Kayoko
Photography: Maeda Kusaku
Illumination: Nogoro Tomotsugu
Sound: Uemura Etsuya
Image Art: Sato Masao
Progress Art: Asanuma Michiyuki
Director of Episode: Nagikawa Yoshiro
Narrator for Komyo ga Tsuji travels: Takishima Masako
Flute Performer: Emmanuel Pahud
++CAST++
Chiyo: Nakama Yukie
Yamauchi Kazutoyo: Kamikawa Takaya
Sofue Shin'emon: Maeda Gin
Yodo: Nagasaku Hiromi
Goto Kichizo: Ogura Hisahiro
Sofue Shin'ichiro: Hamada Manabu
Yamauchi Yasutoyo: Tamaki Hiroshi
Rokuheita: Kagawa Teruyuki
Ii Naomasa: Sasai Eisuke
Takeuchi Gozaemon (Sword Battle Coach): Hayashi Kunishiro
Kozozu: Koudzu Hadzuki
Shino: Iwakura Saori
Okumiya's daughter: Kimura Fumino
Okumiya Yahei: Watanabe Tetsu
Mizofuchi Goroemon: Ooshima Usaburo
Leaders of the Ichiryou-Gusoku: Ono Takeshi, Okabe Tsutomu, Migita Takashi, Ueki Kiyohiko
Yasu: Takamatsu Iku
Haru: Haruguchi Ai
Kaede: Iinuma Chieko
Kou: Ikeno Hiroko
Hana: Takahashi Ayumi
Matajuro: Nagasawa Sotaro
Heizo: Tanoue Kokichi
Sukehira: Tsuchihira Donpei
Jinpachi: Nakamura Kouji
Yasuyoshi: Hamagami Tatsuya
Chief Vassals of the Chosokabe: Harihara Shigeru, Seike Toshikazu
Kodai'in (Nene): Asano Yuuko
Tokugawa Ieyasu: Nishida Toshiyuki
Others: Wakanoma, Kurada Action Club, Campus Cinema, Himawari Theatre Group
++EPISODE SUMMARY++
Kazutoyo [Kamikawa Takaya] was awarded the province of Tosa but he wondered if the Chosokabe would surrender the province peacefully. Kazutoyo discusses this with Ii Naomasa [Sasai Eisuke], Ieyasu's [Nishida Toshiyuki] trusted retainer during a visit. Naomasa declares, "You will be punished if you fail." Though he had partipated in numerous battles up until now, he had never fought a battle in the role as the supreme commander. Kazutoyo wondered if he had to fight this battle but hid that nervousness by arrogantly saying, "A government is exactly such a thing" to Chiyo [Nakama Yukie]. Chiyo laments that her "husband had completely changed" while Nene [Asano Yuuko] suggests that she "stay close to him until the end, no matter what happens."
In Tosa, the people were requesting that the Chosokabe be given half of the province and were raising an uproar, preparing for a siege. Kazutoyo's younger brother Yasutoyo [Tamaki Hiroshi] is sent there first to attack the senior vassals of the Chosokabe. After they were banished from the province, he finally succeeds in securing the castle. Kazutoyo feels rushed. If he took too long to subjugate the province, Kazutoyo feared that Ieyasu would confiscate Tosa from him.
Chiyo and Kazutoyo at last entered Urado Castle in Tosa. Among the party arriving was Rokuheita [Kagawa Teruyuki], who had asked to become one of Kazutoyo's retainers. Rokuheita had expected further difficulties in subjugating Tosa and was risking his own life in order to protect Chiyo's happiness. One day, Chiyo is shot by a bullet and collapses while accompanying Kazutoyo on a land survey. |
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Cadman
New Member
USA
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 Posted - 02/06/2007 : 3:16:25 PM
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Hey Reiko, thanks for resuming your Komyo Ga Tsuji episode summary. I felt kinda lost without them. Anyway, we are watching episode 46 in Hawaii, means there are 3 more shows left. So....the final episode would be Feb. 27. Right?  |
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satomi
Average Member
252 Posts |
Posted - 02/09/2007 : 5:28:46 PM
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I have a question about a recent episode.
After Ishida Mitsunari was executed, the scene switched to Hideyori dropping a ball that he had been playing with. His mother seems to sense that Mitsunari has just been executed and then she hugs Hideyori.
Does that suggest or imply that Hideyori's biological father was Mitsunari and not Hideyoshi? |
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dsk
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Posted - 02/10/2007 : 12:12:43 PM
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Originally posted by satomi
I have a question about a recent episode.
After Ishida Mitsunari was executed, the scene switched to Hideyori dropping a ball that he had been playing with. His mother seems to sense that Mitsunari has just been executed and then she hugs Hideyori.
Does that suggest or imply that Hideyori's biological father was Mitsunari and not Hideyoshi?
In an earlier episode, Hidetsugu's retainers question Hideyori's paternity, pointing out that, among Hideyoshi's many women, only Yodo produced any children with Hideyoshi. Modern historians share this skepticism. I don't read Japanese, so I don't know how much scholarly speculation exists on who Hideyori's "real" father is. In the Aoi production, the son of Yodo's nun-confident is Yodo's lover.
There are a number of hints in earlier episodes of this series that Mitsunari is the father of Yodo's children -- and that he served as, ah, donor, not just because he loves Yodo, but also for the sake of Hideyoshi's legacy. |
Edited by - dsk on 02/10/2007 12:21:56 PM |
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groink
Senior Member
USA
534 Posts |
Posted - 02/10/2007 : 6:40:40 PM
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Originally posted by dsk
In an earlier episode, Hidetsugu's retainers question Hideyori's paternity, pointing out that, among Hideyoshi's many women, only Yodo produced any children with Hideyoshi. Modern historians share this skepticism.
Even if NHK doesn't mention directly that Ishida is the father of Hideyori, Yodo does tell Hideyoshi at his deathbed that he's not the father. I found that to be very risky for the writers to do this seeing even today there's no DNA evidence that would prove one way or another.
Speaking of Ishida's death, NHK's portrayal of his execution is Mickey Mouse. In history books, Tokugawa REALLY hated Ishida. It's been written that the executioners first buried Ishida alive standing up, with his head popping out of the ground. Then they actually sawed his head off at the neck with a blunt saw, sort of the same way that the Iraqi fanatics killed the contract worker a few years ago. Can you say "ouch?"
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satomi
Average Member
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Posted - 02/10/2007 : 7:49:27 PM
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Isn't the actor who portrays Mitsunari in actuality a Kabuki actor?
Maybe NHK thought it would be too undignified for him to die as the actual Mitsunari did.
Concerning authenticity, I have found that these Taiga Dramas take liberties with history.
For instance, Manpukumaru (O-ichi's son) is portrayed as having escaped with his sisters. Then Nobunaga ordered that he be killed by Kazutoyo.
Historically, I think Manpukumaru was left behind with his father and they both died in their castle. |
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Reiko
Senior Member
USA
536 Posts |
Posted - 02/11/2007 : 09:56:01 AM
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I've mentioned this before, but these Taiga dramas are only 'historical dramas', not 'historical documentaries'. The main point of a drama is for its entertainment value and to get as many viewers to watch it. If the writers believe that 'tweaking' history a bit will accomplish those two goals, they will not hesitate to do so.
I think the writers just wanted to give Ishida a death scene that would reflect on how they chose to portray him in this series: as a man who was loyal to the Toyotomi but just happened to make some bad decisions and paid for them with his life. If they had shown him as a shrewd, calculating and unscrupulous person, they'd probably would have written the death scene differently. |
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satomi
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Posted - 02/11/2007 : 1:07:49 PM
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| If Mitsunari's death had been portrayed as it actually happened, might such a violent and gruesome scene have been protested by his descendants? |
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Reiko
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USA
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Posted - 02/12/2007 : 10:21:41 AM
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| Probably, though I wonder if he even has any living descendants. I forgot if Ieyasu had his relatives killed or not. |
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satomi
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Posted - 02/12/2007 : 11:15:46 AM
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When Osaka Castle was eventually besieged by Ieyasu's forces, Hideyori and his son had to kill themselves.
Since Hideyori's wife was Ieyasu's granddaughter (Sen hime), that means that Hideyori's son was also Ieyasu's great grandson.
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final episode of Komyo ga tsuji on sunday
